One week ago, Noob published the V3 edition of their Super Clone Daytona, including 116500 Ceramic Black Dial and 116500 Ceramic White Dial. After the release of this V3 edition, the Daytona from Noob factory now has become a perfection. Since the usage of 904L stainless steel and development of Super Clone 4130 movement, Daytona has become the star product of Noob factory, now this perfect V3 edition is published, more and more people rush to buy it. However, are you buying the correct V3 Daytona from Noob? I mean, do you know the difference between V2 and V3? If you do not know the difference, please read this post carefully.
First, not all Daytona watches from Noob have been improved to V3 edition, as far as I know, all 116500 shipped out from the factory now have been updated to V3, but among other models such as grey ceramic and golden ones, there are also V2 edition mixed. Second, if you want to buy the right V3 edition, your watch supplier needs to know the difference, then he can pick up the right version for you, this is very important. So, here I list some important features of V3 Daytona below, after reading it, you can identify whether your Daytona is V3 or V2.
The numberals on bezel of V2 is a little white. While V3 is closer to genuine, the bezel markers are silver grey, which will not fade.
Check the letters “S” and “R” on the bezel, they are different on V2 and V3, while they look more real on V3.
The numerals on bezel of V2 is a little thick, while V3 makes them correct, in right thickness.
Check the numeral “60” on the bezel, V2’s is a bit skew.
The three small dials are also improved on V3, they look more full, the circles are not that thin on V2, besides, the color of these small dials look closer to genuine.
These five points are main difference between V2 and V3, as we can see, too much improvement has been made on the bezel, one of clients who bought the V2 edition before and said they can not find the difference with genuine, now about this V3, I believe it can satisfy everyone.
When talking about Daytona, you guys must know Noob and AR factory, the two factories almost occupy all market share of Daytona, I also introduced Daytona watches from them before, they are really good timepieces that can even be compared with genuine. When need a Daytona, you have two choices, purchase from Noob or AR factory? Sometimes it is hard to make such a decision, today, I am willing to help you to make a right choice. After National Day holiday, I write this guide will help you pick a better Daytona replica watch between Noob and AR factory.
Both Noob and AR factory almost have the same collection of Daytona models, here I will take Daytona 116500 for example, currently it is the most popular Daytona replica watch, every body wants to own one.
Both Noob and AR factory are good. Some people said that the quality of 904L stainless steel used on ARF Daytona is better than that of Noob Daytona, this is not true, I think the quality of their 904L stainless steel material is the same. In earlier editions of Noob Daytona, the quality of 904L stainless steel is indeed not as good as that of ARF Daytona, but in the latest V3 edition which Noob factory just pulished, the quality is good, just the same as genuine. AR factory has always been proud of their case finish, but in the V3 Daytona from Noob, the case finish has reached the level of ARF Daytona. By the way, the case thickness of Daytona from Noob is more accurate, it is 12.5mm, genuine watch is 12.3mm, while ARF Daytona is 13mm.
I vote for AR factory. Actually both factories have flaws on the ceramic bezel. First, Noob makes the bezel markers in correct thickness, while they are a little thick on the bezel of ARF Daytona. Second, on some markers of Noob, the coating will fade, but this will not happen on ARF Daytona.
Noob is better. In my previous posts, I said more than once that replica watches made by Noob are famous for their exquisite dial details, so are Noob Daytonas. On the dial of ARF Daytona, there is a big flaw, that’s the small dials at 3 o’clock and 9 o’clock, they have no function, which means the small hands in the two subdials are fixed, they do not move, even you start the chronograph, only the central seconds-chronograph hand works.
ARF Daytona is better. Both use 904L stainless steel, but AR factory has a better finish, especially the polishing on the corners, you can feel by your hands, the ARF Daytona is much better. AR factory has always focused on the polishing work of the case and bracelet, if you care the texture of bracelet too much, then it is a right choice to choose a Daytona from AR factory.
I vote for Noob. Both factories use 4130 movement, some people said that ARF 4130 is more stable, that’s not true now. I have two clients who bought Daytona watches from Noob in last year, now their watches still work well, very accurate. Noob 4130 movement has a full functional chronograph, while ARF Daytona does not have. About 4130 movement from both factories, if you do not use the chronograph too often, then the movement should be very stable.
About the replica of Daytona 116500, as there is the newest V3 edition, and Noob has made a lot of effort in improving the case finish and movement stability, now is is really better than ARF 116500, also the price is also much higher.
I never saw a carbon Daytona watch before, maybe it is the first Daytona watch that adopts forged carbon material on case. In 2019, the most exciting news is that Noob factory has unveiled Daytona with Super Clone 4130 movement, yes, we have to admit that 2019 is the world of replica Rolex in fake watch industry, and the biggest success is the release of Noob Super Clone 4130 Daytona, do you know how hot it is? You even need to wait for nearly two weeks for Noob to release the stocks after placing the order, now its popularity has surpassed the flagship model Submariner 116610LN of Noob. Please take a look at the photos below, that is a Daytona replica watch in another style, I am going to introduce this weird black Daytona watch today.
The replica Daytona watch is made by WW factory, we call it WWF. You know, the Hublot Classic Fusion replica from WWF is very hot in recent months, especially JJ factory was closed several months ago, now, only two factories in our market make replica Hublot Classic Fusion watches, WWF and TWF.
On the case, WWF uses real forged carbon material, the case has very special prints. The bezel has white and red markers, which exactly echo with the red stitching on black nylon strap. The forged carbon case has a good finish, and the watch feels very comfortable when you wearing it, it has a very light weight. Case back is made of 316L stainless steel that has been blackened.
The dial is black and has white printings, central second-chronograph hand is in bright red color, this long and big hand works for seconds chronograph, it has the same function as real Daytona watch. The red hand and “DAYTONA” form a high contrast with the black dial background. Three small dials have real functions, sub-second hand is working on the small dial at 6 o’clock, other two small dials present minute and hour chronograph.
Although the replica has the same chronograph function as real watch, it has a thicker case than genuine. If you want the case to be exactly 1:1 replicated from original, which I mean the replica Daytona has the same thickness as genuine, then you need to go with a Daytona replica watch from Noob or AR factory. The Daytona watches from these two factories absolutely represent the most advanced watch-making technology in our market, they also have better case finish and 1:1 original case profile.
However, if you want to try something that looks fresh, then this carbon Daytona watch will be a good start.
Rolex only published several pieces Daytona watches for women, but every Daytona watch they unveiled is very suitable for women to wear, I do not think Rolex Daytona is exclusive for men. Under current trend, the Daytona, whose case diameter is up to 40mm, looks neutral and is a nice choice for women. Daytona is the only model of Rolex that has a chronograph function. It is only in 40mm and does not have other options, except some vintage models like Paul Newman Daytona. Among all Rolex models, the popularity of Daytona is close to Submariner.
Due to its high popularity, Daytona is also highly welcomed in replica watch industry, it is replicated by a lot of watch manufacturers. Different factories make different quality of Daytona replica watches. The general rule is small factories make low quality Daytona replicas, while big factories make high quality ones. However, I do not recommend you to buy the most expensive replicas, you need to find the right one. Sometimes the watch is not very stable even you spent more than $600 USD on it, from a big factory such as Noob, ARF, etc. But sometimes a replica watch from a common watch factory can serve you for years. This situation always happens, some clients also complained that their expensive watches have issues only after several months. I must say this situation is common, you just need to find a right watch supplier who could do a careful quality control before shipping your order.
Now, back to this Noob watch, yes, when talking about Noob factory, does thie factory have an online website? Some people will ask. No, this factory does not open sites online. The Daytona replica shown here is the newest V2 edition from Noob factory. Compared with V1, this version has a much slimmer movement. First, the watch is made of better material 904L stainless steel, whether the lugs and clasp, there are correct engravings. There are same correct engravings on the back side of the case back and movement plates. The movement plates have Rolex SEALs, the entire movement is decorated to the lookf of genuine Rolex 4130.
The dial is blue, it has special sunray patterns, the texture is high quality. I do not know how did the factory do, but it really looks high quality. All hour markers have been filled with quality Swiss lume material, they will have a strong lume light in the dark conditions.
The replica is equipped with a super clone 4130 movement. It is the best quality chronograph movement in replica watch market. Compared with the movement installed in ARF Daytona, this super clone 4130 movement can achieve a full chronograph function. By the way, the replica watch comes with one pair of free short rubber strap. The following are details of the replica.
Movement: Super Clone 4130, Decorated Movement Plates and Auto Rotor to Look of Rolex Calibre 4130
Case: 40mm*12.5mm, Solid 904L Stainless Steel
Bezel: Black Ceramic
Crystal: Sapphire with Tiny Rolex Crown Logo at 6 o’clock
Dial: Blue with Working Subdials, Blue Superlume on Markers and Hands
Bracelet: Top Quality Black Rubber with Deployant Clasp
Water Resistant: 30m
Do you know BL factory? I do not know it before, but this factory has unveiled one Daytona with green ceramic bezel, and many people like this watch. BL is a small factoyr, yes, it is not like Noob, BP and AR that make high end replica Rolex watches, currently BL only made some Daytona watches with special appearance, and sold at cheap prices. Today, I will introduce one Daytona watch that is embeded with brilliant diamonds. It is long time not to see such type of diamond Rolex watch now, as a man, I do not like diamond watch, but many girls like the diamonds decoration on a watch. This Daytona watch is absolutely in line with current big watch trend, plus the diamonds deco, it is a special gift for ladies.
The entire quality of the replica is moderate, not the best, but is definitely worthy of the price. Not like the best Daytona from Noob and ARF that is made of best watch material 904L stainless steel, this diamond Daytona is made of 316L stainless steel. The biggest highlight on the watch lies in its bezel and dial that are fully decorated with diamonds. First, the bezel is inlaid with 36 pieces of diamonds that are precisely cut. Second, besides the full diamonds, the dial also has other beautiful places, the blue color usage lights up the entire silver dial, especially the ice blue subdials with small blue hands. The central hands and hour markers all feature blue edge that echoes with the small blue hands of three subdials.
The diamond Daytona watch is equipped with an Asia 7750 movement that has a full chronograph function. But I advise you not to use the chronograph function too frequent, even for the best Daytona from Noob, you do not better use the chronograph too often, or the movement will have some issues. Whatever, the accuracy and stability of the movement are good, even can be compared with the stability of our famous Asia ETA 2836 movement.
This diamond Daytona Rolex watch is more suitable for women, having bee together with her for years, sometimes it is a good idea to send her a special watch gift to create a romantic atmosphere, she will love you more.
Daytona and Submariner are two models that have been mostly replicated in recent months. Both Noob and AR factories have brought us a lot of amazing replicas during this period, I can not share all of them with you here, so I chose some representative models to review. Today, I will introduce another novelty AR factory has brought to us, it is a Daytona replica watch, which is in full yellow gold. This is the latest V2 edition, AR updated its bezel, dial and bracelet on basis of V1. There are several selling points on this replica watch, please read the following article.
First, the watch is fully made of 904L stainless steel, while on the surface of case and bracelet, there is a thick layer of 18K yellow gold, which is measured to be 5 mils thick. This is one of the selling points of the replica. Based on V1, this time AR factory made improvement on the case engraving and bezel engraved numerals. The black color of the tachymeter scales on the bezel is closer to genuine. About engraving, check the back side of each lug, it has correct symbol engraving like genuine watch case.
The second selling point, it is the movement. Actually I did not recommend AR Factory Daytona before, because they do not have a full chronograph function, the subdials at 3 o’clock and 9 o’clock have no function, only the second-chronograph hand on the center is working. However, when I think back, although the replica does not have a full chronograph function, its movement may be more reliable. Some features are sacrificed, this makes the movement to be slimmer and more stable. We know Noob also makes this Daytona with full chronograph function, all subdials are working like genuine, but I do not think the movement of Noob Daytona is more reliable than that of ARF Daytona. Besides, the ARF Daytona is sold at a much cheaper price.
The black dial looks amazing, the red color usage highlights the whole dial, especially the red big second hand and red minute scales. Three small dials are in golden tone with black hand. The design of subdials is delicate, multi-layer three-dimensional visual effect is obvious. Hour markers, hour hand and minute hand have increased amount of Swiss lume material, so they will offer the wearer a long-lasting lume light in weak light conditions.
The replica will come with a plastic box like genuine watch. We do not offer original Rolex box for the watch, if you want one, you need to pay extra dollars.
Now, a lot of factories are making replica Rolex watches, for example, Noob, ARF, GMF, DJ, BP, etc. Their products are absolutely in different quality. So, sometimes it is very confused for us to make a decision, because some beginners do not know which factory to choose from. Here I will write a basic guide on the top five best-selling Rolex replica watches in our market. These Rolexs are also the best quality ones. Hope this guide can help you.
Noob V9 Rolex Submariner 116610LN
Submariner 116610LN is the hottest Rolex watch. Among so many replicas from various factories, the best one I think is from Noob. Now the latest version is V9, and Noob is still making efforts to upgrade it. V9 116610LN could be equipped with a Super Asia 3135 or an Asia ETA 2836. Compared with Asia 3135, the Asia 2836 is more stable. So, here I recommend you to buy Submariner 116610LN V9 with Asia ETA 2836. The watch is fully made of 904L stainless steel.
2. Noob V9 Rolex Submariner 116610LV
Like 116610LN, the latest version of 116610LV made by Noob is also V9. The watch is made of 904L stainless steel, case thickness is 13mm, which is the same as genuine. Green ceramic bezel is updated, bezel markers are filled with platinum. The watch also has Super Asia 3135 and Asia ETA 2836 movement options. I recommend the one with Asia ETA 2836.
3. Noob V9 GMT-Master II 116710BLNR
Maybe I should put GMT-Master II 116710BLNR on the first position, because it sells very well, even better than the black Submariner. About this V9 GMT-Master II 116710BLNR from Noob, it does not have an Asia ETA movement option. The movement inside this watch is an Asia 3186, fortunately, the watch has a correct hand stack due to this super 3186 movement. The color transition on the ceramic bezel is so natural. V9 116710BLNR is made of 904L stainless steel.
4. Noob V2 Daytona 116500
V2 is the latest version, Noob just published it in the beginning of March, 2019. If you need it, please pre-order. 116500 has black and white choices in dial. Noob V2 Daytona 116500 is made of 904L stainless steel on case and bracelet, the most important is the watch is equipped with a Super Clone 4130, which is the first cloned 4130 in our market, the movement can achieve a full chronograph function. If you are interested in this watch and need more details of it, please contact me.
5. Vintage Rolex Daytona Paul Newman
Many people think that this watch should not be in this top five list. However, the vintage Daytona Paul Newman is indeed the best seller on my blog. I introduced this watch several years ago, and many clients have ordered it from me within these years. The Paul Newman Daytona has a lot of options in dial color, it also has white stainless steel and yellow golden choices. The watch is equipped with a Venus 75 movement, which is manual winding and can achieve a full chronograph function. The following are some actual photos I took for several Daytona Paul Newman watches. They are all available.
Happy Chinese New Year to you all ! Now, I was just back from the holiday. Actually the whole February is our Chinese New Year holiday, but too many people have asked me to help them to find watches, so I came back earlier. We love watches and and always followed the latest news from the market, 2018 is really a great year for the replica watch industry, it is brilliant. Not only a lot of amazing watches were released in 2018, but also these factories are more willing to use genuine watch material on their replica watches, they also spent a lot of money and great effort to develop movements that look closer to genuine calibre. Now, the competition between these watch manufacturers is getting more and more intense. We are still expecting that there will be more good quality replica watches published in 2019. Each Swiss brand is replicated by different factory, we know that each factory is good at cloning the watches of a certain Swiss brand, for example, JF makes the best AP replicas, Noob makes the best Rolex replicas.
From today, I can get watches for you from the factory, on February 9th, one client from Italy ordered six pieces of Daytona from me, I told him I was on holiday and could not get him the watches immediately, but he still trusted me and paid the money via Western Union, really thank you. Yesterday, I went to the market and got these six watches from J12 factory, now the watches have been tested for one night, they all worked very well, and I will test them for another day before shipping. Here come some actual photos I took for you, James, really thanks for your big order. As I promised, three original Rolex boxes with cards will also be sent to you for free.
Now it is nearly the end of 2018, I think it is time to make a summary of this year. I know what you are really care about when buying a replica watch, you guys all want your replica to look closest to the genuine, so, today, I will publish an article about the top ten best-selling replica watches in 2018, they are also the best replica watches made in our market. This article will also be an ultimate guide for you to find the replica watch that looks closest to genuine. Let’s begin.
1 – Noob V9 Edition Rolex Submariner 116610LN
Rolex is the best-selling watch around the world, it is also the truth in replica watch field. Noob factory published V9 edition in 2018, which means this is the ninth time Noob has made improvement on this Submariner watch. Now V9 Submariner 1166710LN is made of genuine 904L stainless steel in case and bracelet, the bezel engravings are closer to genuine in color and thickness, V9 Submariner 116610LN has two movement options, Asia ETA 2836 and Super Clone 3135. V9 Rolex Submariner 116610LN from Noob ranks first in this top ten list.
2 – JF V4 Edition Royal Oak 15400
Audemars Piguet is a famous sports watch brand from Switzerland. Royal Oak is their iconic series and is well-known among watch fans due to its octagon-shaped bezel. Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15400 is the second best seller, it is the V4 edition from JF. 15400 not only has a top quality case finish, but it is also equipped with a super clone 3120 movement that looks closest to genuine AP Cal. 3120. The JF V4 Royal Oak 15400 has three dial color options, black, white and blue.
3 – JF V9.5 Edition ROO Diver 15703
Royal Oak Offshore Diver 15703 ranks third. It is also made by JF, the newest V9.5 edition published in 2018. The watch is equipped with an Asia ETA 2824 automatic movement and one pair of rubber straps. JF makes the best AP replicas, you do not need to worry about the quality, it is superior and much higher than AP made by other factories.
4 – Noob V8 Edition GMT-Master II 116710BLNR Black/Blue
GMT-Master II 116710BLNR is always a hot watch. Now the replica has come to be V8 edition, made by Noob factory. Black and blue ceramic bezel makes it stand out among other Rolex GMT-Master II models. Now V8 uses an Asia ETA 2836 movement, which is very accurate and stable. GMT function also works the same way as genuine. In 2019, I think Noob will make an important improvement on it, they will use 904L stainless steel material on this watch at least. Let’s expect.
5 – ARF V2 Edition Sea-Dweller 126600 Single Red
Sea-Dewller Single Red 126600 was published by Rolex in 2017 Basel, so it is a new face in our market. It was called “Single Red” because the SEW-DWELLER printing is in red on the black dial. There are several factories manufacturing the replicas of this Rolex Sea-Dweller 126600, BP, AR, GM and Noob. Among them, AR makes the best replica Single Red 126600, Noob also makes it, but it does not use 904L stainless steel like AR factory. BP version has the price advantage but it only makes mid-quality Rolex replicas. While GM is a new watch manufacturer, it does not have too much replicating experience. So, if you want a 126600 replica, just choose from ARF. Besides, this is the V2 edition they published, every detail has been upgraded.
6 – Noob V6 Edition Planet Ocean 42mm Liquidmetal
Noob made this replica several years ago, it was very hot once being published. But the watch often does not have stocks, you need to wait for a long time after placing your order. Now the newest edtion comes to V6. It has several things improved. The dial now uses ceramic material, liquidmetal bezel like original, date font is corrected to be the same as genuine. The case back has high quality engravings now. The replica Planet Ocean now is equipped with an Asia ETA 2892, like the mostly used ETA 2824, this movement also has a high stability.
7 – Noob Daytona 116500
What watch will come in the seventh? Yes, it is another Rolex watch, the Daytona 116500. A lot of factories has made this watch, but Noob makes the best one. Among so many replicas, I will choose this one from Noob, not only because this factory has the richest experience in imitating Rolex, but they use the newest 904L stainless steel on this replica 116500. Three subdials all work, the chronograph is fully functional. I do not recommend you buy this Daytona watch from ARF, because their hour-chronograph hand and minute-chronograph hand are fixed, means the chronograph is not real. In the beginning of 2019, an important step ARF will make is on the chronograph function of their Super Clone Daytona Collection.
8 – ZF Aquanaut 5167
The next three watches are all made by ZF. You think Patek Philippe Nautilus should rank at this position, but I do not agree. The replica PP Aquanaut 5167 made by ZF looks closer to genuine than Nautolus. This watch has several options in dial and strap color. This is a replica with a see-through case back, but ZF has used a Miyota 9015 as a based movement, to decorate the auto rotor and plates, so it has a very close outlook to genuine PP Cal. 324.
9 – ZF Tudor Black Bay Red Bezel
ZF is the overlord in imitating Tudor Black Bay watches. This factory makes the best replica Tudor Black Bay. This one with a metal red bezel is the hottest replica among all Black Bay models. The following is its specification.
Movement: Asia ETA 2824-2 Automatic, 25 Jewels, 28800BPH
Case: 41mm*11mm, Solid 316L Stainless Steel
Bezel: Red Metal Bezel, Uni-directional Rotating Diving Bezel
Crystal: Sapphire, Dome-shaped, with Colorless Double AR Coating
Dial: Black Dial with Superlumed Hour Markers and Hands, Markers and Hands Have Golden Edge
Bracelet: Made of 316L Stainless Steel, Rivet Style
Water Resistant: 50m
10 – ZF Portuguese 7 Days
This watch sells very well, a lot of clients from Australia and Singapore bought this watch from me. ZF made the best IWC Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve replica watch, first, the power reserve indicator is working, second, the power reserve has reached to be 3 days, although not 7 days like real, but the watch can work for you at least 3 days after being fully wound. It is a perfect dress watch for a lot of men who need to wear for a formal occasion. Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve has a lot of models, the dial has blue, white and black color options, the case has white stainless steel, yellow gold and rose gold, while the leather band also has several choices in color. The following photos are showing popular model IW500710. It is the latest replica from ZF, with a super clone 52010 movement.
This is my own top ten replica watches in 2018, every one has different opinion, you must also have a different top ten list, if so, please share your top ten watches with us in comment section. Actually, except those watches above, there are a lot of other replica watches that are in high quality and sold well, we can not list all of them here. Now, it is nearly the beginning of 2019, we hope that manufacturers will bring us more amazing replica watches in the coming new year. Thanks for reading my review.
A lot of Rolex Daytona replica watches have been published in our market since the beginning of 2018, AR and Noob are two main factories that manufactured these Daytona replicas. The quality from both factories is good, but there is a big difference between Noob Daytona and AR Daytona. In my opinion, Noob makes the best replica Rolex, including these Daytonas, maybe some people do not agree, but this is the truth. Noob not only used 904L stainless steel on the case, but also now installed the super clone 4130 movement in the Daytona, this type of super clone 4130 has a full functional chronograph. Although AR has their clone 4130 movement, but it does not have a real chronograph, a bit disappointed. Today, I want to introduce another good replica Daytona made by Noob factory, genuine watch has a reference number 116515, this rose gold Rolex Daytona watch is currently the best Daytona replica, you can not find any other Daytona watches in our market that could be compared with this one.
About this Daytona, the most important change AR factory has made lies in its movement. The factory used an original KIF shock absorber on this super clone 4130. On movement plates, from chamfering to sun-ray polishing, they do a respect to original design, the outlook is completely the same as genuine Rolex 4130 Caliber. Compared with previous Asian Valjoux 7750 movement, this super clone 4130 has correct thickness, not that thick on Asian 7750. Checked the movement photos below, do they look beautiful? The polishing and engravings are correct, because of original KIF shock absorber, the clone 4130 movement has a high stability and accuracy.
40mm case is made of 316L stainless steel, there is a thick coating of 18K rose gold, which is measured to be 5 mils. The case is brushed, while the four lugs and case side are polished. Case lugs have a curved line so the whole case can fit your wrist very well. Do not worry that the rose gold tone will fade, it will not because the rose gold coating is so thick. After many years of wearing, you can send the watch to us, we can do rose gold plating for you in factory. Bezel is real black ceramic with rose gold markings. On solid case back, the center is brushed while the round edge is polished. The back of each lug is engraved with some symbols, I do not know them.
Rose gold dial has Swiss lume applied on hour markers and hands, there will be a strong blue lume effect in the dark. The sunray rose gold dial has a high quality texture. Three subdials have their correct function, small seconds subdial is positioned at 6 o’clock, the small dial at 3 o’clock is for 30-minute chronograph, while the small subdial at 9 o’clock is for 12-hour chronograph. These subdials are all working right. In details, they have rose gold edge with black circles on the center.
The replica Rolex Daytona watch is equipped with a black leather band, which is made of genuine alligator leather. The leather strap has a rose gold buckle, there is a delicate Rolex Crown on the buckle. When opening the clasp, you will notice the engravings are perfectly done by the factory. By the way, the watch has a water resistant depth of 50 meters.